Well, it is difficult to give a general answer to the question: “java, or php?”.

I am a java programmer. I know also asp.net very well, various versions, worked with .net 1.1, 2.0 and 3.*

For personal stuff, Java hosting is expensive, .net hosting is either too expensive or too unreliable. Also if you have 20 websites and 19 are with wordpress (php), developing the site number 20 in Java will make the deployment environment very difficult to configure and maintain.

So for personal purpose I work with php

I see the following pros:

- Cheap infrastructure
- Reliable solution (at a Java solution peeking daily at the logs to see potential errors is a must,while at php this is not the case).
- Documentation available everywhere
- Free

However you cannot overlook the cons:

- Weak typing – much more difficult to write the php code than the Java one. Modern editors – like Eclipse PDT I am currently using only partially provide intellisense.
- Arguable namespace implementation – personally I don’t use namespaces because of that
- C based plugins – you never know what is in store for you, maybe the next version of that fancy php plugin you use will not work, or maybe the windows version will work fine and the unix one will not. On the contrary, Java is full stack – all you need can be embedded as a library in your app, and you know for sure it will work on any valid application server
- Relatively slow language (real time interpreted)

So again, it is a mixed world out there – php is not the best technology available, however it is there and at least personally I have to use it (I wrote some personal stuff in .net and Java and had to rewrite it in php). Java is much better but you cannot use it in 100% of the solutions.

Personally, for personal projects I am stuck php. Not that I like it – actually I don’t, but here I am working php apps

Its on database we have to give more concentration. Languages are only mediators.

Java and PHP. two are not good.

Why should we want to stick will an intermediate language like this better we can go for C++ or c compiled language .

Will can give high performance.

So my conclusion is,
1. Database is the main part need a good optimisation in performance.
2. Me frameworks have to be developed in c++ or c so that other can do web projects in these language. perfectly.
3. Both Database and language should have a good garbage Collection Methodology.

4. Good IDE for developement. with lots of auto generate facilities.

etc..

I am waiting for such a high performance.

What I can say is, that I touched both languages and ultimately chose php for its quicker ramp up, ease of use, ease of reading, no headaches for overhead. Java functions, in the past, were hard for me to lookup, understand. Say I wanted a simple existing function that searches a string for a sub-string. It took me ages to find with java, and the code was ugly to read once implemented. Php I found the function in under a minute of searching its docs, and the code was very understandable.

I was coding very small programs for myself and my work basically, NOT enterprise or professional level. So, I always trusted what others said: PHP doesnt scale. Well, now that I have seen a .php stuck into one of the pictures at facebook…. facebook is the ULTIMATE of scaling. I mean, really you cannot scale to more users than that. There really is nothing currently higher in users that I can think of.

I think that PHP can be easy to use/learn, and dangerous to scale. But, if done right apparently, it can shoot you to the moon.

I am going to learn Python I think. It is a mix between java and php qualities. Python is more heavily object oriented and strict and enherently scalable, yet it too is script-based… it compiles as you run it. No need for go-live or compilation headaches.

Too right.

use PHP. Java is for very big projects with its advantages of good refactoring. Given the time, you must go ahead with php and use Kohana framework (MVC architecture) for good understanding and practices. This gives you a good understanding of OOP and atleast one Design pattern.

At a later stage, learn Design patterns in java (particularly adapter pattern), JSF, JPA and you are to market.

Looking even further, start learning a function/OO hybrid language like Scala which will replace java eventually. (2 years time)

Cheers,
kappa

cheers

Having “dirty code” code in your any application is like having cooking oil in your Ferrari engine. And sticking one’s head in the sand with regards to enterprize issues is just shoddy.

Anybody who has worked at the enterprize level should know this. There is nothing wrong with PHP or JAVA. They were built for different reasons.

Apples and Pears my friend.

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